A Report on Vocational Training in Chicago and in Other Cities

Chapter 18: Present and Desired Occupations

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From the question blank which was given the boys to fill out we were able to learn their present occupations, and the answer to question one of our English test revealed what the boys would like to do in the future.

The first series of tables (XIII and XIII-A) that follows set forth the desired occupation of 350 boys, and parallel with this are columns showing the age and present employment of the same boys.

Out of the 350 cases there were 117 who expressed themselves as satisfied with their present employment. A further analysis shows that 42 of the 11 A either have trades or are apprentices learning trades.

There were 19 out of the 350 who expressed themselves as being dissatisfied with what they were doing, but who did not state what they wanted to do. Only two of these had trades.

There were nine who have trades that did not give promise of being very profitable. and they desired to change to other trades.

Adding those who have trades, or are apprentices, to those who are not learning trades, but would like to, we have 170 out of the 350 cases, or 49 per cent. There are 35 more who wish to get into officework, or business. This makes 11 per cent. Thus, 60 per cent of the boys want trade or business training. It is the writer's belief, also, that a considerable number of the boys who stated that they were satisfied did so merely because they were just out of school and had not given much thought to what they would like to do ultimately. A year or two later they would swell the per cent of those who desire to get into the trades, or business.

The next table (XIV) shows what a number of boys are doing, but fails to reveal what they might desire to do. This was because they were given the information blank to fill out, but were not given the English test because of lack of time, which was explained earlier in the paper.

Following this is a short table (XV) of boys who apparently through inability failed to fill out the information blank or answer


( 305) our English questions so that we could tell what they were doing, or what they desired to do. These, for the most part, were of the sixth grade.

The last table (XVI) is based on those preceding and shows the kinds of work which the boys mentioned, and the number of boys which desired each kind of work.

Table XIII -- 8th Grade Night School
Desired employment   Age   Present employment
Satisfied   17   Hardware store
Satisfied   17   Errands
Satisfied   15   Errands
Satisfied   17   Clerk, office
Satisfied   18   Bookbinding
Satisfied   22   Elevator operator
Satisfied   16   Door boy.
Satisfied   17   Entry clerk
Satisfied   16   Music store clerk
Satisfied   16   Stock boy
Satisfied   15   Shipping clerk
Satisfied   20   Pressman-printer
Satisfied   16   Office
Satisfied   16   Tailor
Satisfied   19   Patternmaker's apprentice
Satisfied   16    --
Satisfied   17   Jeweler
Satisfied   16   Pressman-printer
Satisfied   21   Printer
Satisfied   16   Printer
Satisfied   15   Errands
Satisfied   15   Music store clerk
Satisfied   15   Office
Satisfied   16   Machine shop
Satisfied   16   Office
Satisfied   16   Office
Satisfied   17   Printer
Satisfied   18   Special messenger post office
Satisfied   15   Postal service
Satisfied   21   Telegraph operator
Dissatisfied   20   Clerk
Dissatisfied   16   Interpreter and translator
Dissatisfied   16   Errands
Dissatisfied   22   Plumber
Dissatisfied   16   Office
Dissatisfied   16   Office
Traveling salesman   20   Clerk
Street car conductor   22   Veneer cutter
Theater decorator   18   Painter and decorator
Boat builder   18   Painter
Engraver   16   Office
Undetermined   15   Office boy
Undetermined   15   Errands
Undetermined   16   Office

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Table XIII -- 8th Grade Night School continued
Desired employment Age Present employment
Business 20 Stenographer
Business 18 Shipping clerk
Trade 19 Filing clerk
Trade 16 Machine shop
Trade 18 Page, Library
Machinist 16 Engraver
Machinist 17 Office
Electrician 16 Machine shop
Electrician 17 Office
Electrical Engineer 16 Office
Typewriter repairer 16 Typewriter deliverer
Bank 18 Filing clerk
Draughtsman 16 Window-shade maker
Insurance 15 Office boy
Bookkeeper 15 Bagmaker
Bookkeeper 21 Electrician
Architect 16 Office
Architect 19 Student
Letter carrier 17 Special delivery messenger P. 0.
Letter carrier 20 Shipping clerk
Special delivery P. 0 . 18 Box factory
Pharmacist 20 Cigarmaker
Pharmacist 18 Wire-frame maker
Railroad office 16 Office
Chemist 16 Messenger
Automobile machinist 17 Stock boy
Office 18 Express driver
Office 18 Furniture packer
Office 15 Factory
Government office 20 Printer
Railroad mail clerk 24 Painter
Grain buyer 19 Cloth roller
Chauffeur 18 Packer
Telegraph operator 16 Office
Telegraph operator 18 Office
Railroad engineer 17 Office
Clerk 16 Order department
Farmer 22 House work
Farmer 20 Order clerk
7th Grade Night School
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 17 Register's clerk
Satisfied 20 Machine shop
Satisfied 18 Sign lettering
Satisfied 14 Jewelry delivery
Satisfied 22 Shipping clerk
Satisfied 16 Driver
Satisfied 17 Furniture finisher
Satisfied 19 Clerk


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7TH GRADE NIGHT SCHOOL continued
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 15 Office
Satisfied 19 Printer
Satisfied Printer
Satisfied 16 Pharmacist's apprentice
Satisfied 18 Filing clerk
Satisfied 17 Photographer
Satisfied 17 Errands
Satisfied 18 Sheet-metal worker
Satisfied 16 Errands
Satisfied 18 -
Satisfied 15 Grocer clerk
Satisfied 20 Printer
Satisfied 18 Shipping clerk
Satisfied 21 Electrotype
Satisfied 15 Engraver
Satisfied 16 Patternmaker apprentice
Satisfied 21 Clerk, office
Satisfied 17 Trimmer
Satisfied 17 Trimmer
Satisfied 16 Office
Dissatisfied 19 Filing clerk
Dissatisfied 17 Stock keeper
Dissatisfied 15 Office
Undetermined 15 Errands
Undetermined 22 Floor walker
Undetermined 16 Butcher's clerk
Undetermined 21 Clerk
Undetermined 16 Machine shop
Business 17 'Telegraph operator
Business 17 Clerk
Trade 18 Filing orders
Trade 18 Machine shop
Trade 16 Stock keeper
Machinist 17 Wiring operator
Machinist 16 -
Machinist 16 Printer
Machinist 14 Messenger
Electrician 19 Transfer checker
Electrician 16 Office
Letter carrier 22 Freight hand
Draughtsman 18 Apprentice
Office, railroad 20 Office
Civil engineer 17 Jewelry deliverer
Piano tuner 18 Final inspector of pianos
Farmer 17 Butcher
Railroad engineer 18 Office
Architect 17 Architect's office
Navy 16 Office
Printer 15 Messenger
Tinsmith 15 Wrapper
Stenographer 21 Claim adjuster
Traveling salesman 22 Stock keeper
Clerk 20 Unemployed
Structural engineer - -


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6th Grade Night School
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 17 Stockkeeper
Satisfied 16 Signpainter
Satisfied 16 Chauffeur
Satisfied 15 Office
Satisfied 18 Steamfitter's apprentice
Satisfied - Printer's apprentice
Satisfied 21 Candymaker
Satisfied 22 Carriagemaker
Satisfied 24 Carpenter
Satisfied 16 Presser, tailor
Satisfied 16 Special delivery messenger
Satisfied

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Contractor's assistant
Dissatisfied 16 Driver
Dissatisfied - Cigarmaker
Dissatisfied - Bottle washer
Dissatisfied - Paper box factory
Dissatisfied 15 Tailor's shop boy
Undetermined 20 Fireman
Undetermined 15 Messenger
Undetermined 20 Driver
Undetermined 20 Fur operator
Undetermined - Wrapper
Undetermined - Milk business
Undetermined - Machine shop
Trade 15 Office
Trade - Machine shop
Trade 16 Errands
Trade 16 Errands
Electrician 17 Elevator operator
Plumber 17 Wrapper
Typewriter 18 Gold burnisher
Office 15 Buttonmaker
Office 16 Wrapper
Office 20 Cigarmaker
Telegraph operator 15 Office
Machinist - Bottle washer
Machinist 15 Office
Carpenter 20 Wrapper
Printer 15 Errands


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Table XIII-A. --- High School Boys Out of School
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 18 Machinist's helper
Satisfied 17 Telephone inspector
Satisfied 17 Tube boy
Satisfied 17 Order picker
Satisfied 15 Messenger
Satisfied 19 Record clerk
Satisfied 18 Order clerk
Satisfied 16 Office
Satisfied 15 Errands
Satisfied 17 Pricer
Dissatisfied 19 Foundry
Trade 17 Carrier
Draughtsman 17 Machine shop
Mechanical engineer 19 Machine shop
Lineman 17 Lineman's helper
Electrician 16 Office
Lawyer 19 Lineman's helper
Pharmacist 16 Office

8th Grade Boys Out of School
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 16 Office
Satisfied 15 Office
Satisfied 17 Machinist's helper
Satisfied 17 Lineman's helper
Satisfied 16 Telephone office
Satisfied 18 Telephone office
Satisfied 19 Chauffeur
Satisfied 17 Stenographer
Satisfied 16 Messenger
Satisfied 16 Order filler
Satisfied 15 Messenger
Satisfied 15 Messenger
Satisfied 15 Errands
Satisfied 17 Wrapper
Satisfied. 17 Order picker
Satisfied 17 Tube boy
Satisfied 17 Packer
Satisfied 16 Messenger
Satisfied 15 Office boy
Satisfied 16 Tube boy
Satisfied 17 Order picker
Satisfied 17 Telegraph operator
Business 17 Office
Business 15 Messenger
Business 16 Messenger
Business 15 Messenger
Business 15 Messenger
Business 20 Re-checker
Business 16 Errands


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8th Grade Boys Out Of School Continued
Desired employment Age Present employment
Business 16 Errands
Trade 17 Machine shop
Trade 16 Machine shop
Trade 17 Machine shop
Trade 14 Office
Trade 16 Telephone office
Trade 16 Lineman's helper
Trade 15 Messenger
Trade 18 Order filler
Trade 17 Order filler
Trade 16 Order filler
Trade 16 Order filler
Trade 16 Wrapper
Trade 16 Errands
Trade 15 Errands
Musician 17 Order picker
Machinist 19 Machine shop
Electrician 17 Office
Electrician 16 Lineman's helper
Electrician 18 Telephone office
Electrician 18 Machine shop
Electrician 16 Lineman's helper
Electrician 15 Messenger
Electrician 16 Messenger
Electrician 17 Messenger
Patternmaker 17 Machine shop
Patternmaker 17 Machine shop
Steamfitter 16 Machine shop
Steamfitter 18 Telephone office
Wrought shop 18 Machine shop
Real estate 18 Office
Electrical engineer 16 Lineman's helper
Lineman 18 Telephone office
Lineman 18 Machine shop
Bank 15 Telephone office
Bookkeeper 16 Telephone office
Letter carrier 18 Office
Plumber 16 Telephone office
Plumber 15 Messenger
Plumber 16 Office
Draughtsman 16 Lineman's helper
Law 16 Carrier
Office, business 15 Messenger
Correspondence, M. 0. house  15 Messenger
Pharmacist 17 Packer
Lathing Contractor (F. A. T.) 16 Errands
Carpenter 17 Supply clerk
Bookbinder (T. T.) 16 Messenger
Commercial school 18 Order clerk
Dissatisfied 17 Errands
Dissatisfied 17 Delivery boy
Undetermined 19 Machine shop
Undetermined 16 Office boy


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7th Grade Boys Out of School
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 18 Office
Satisfied 17 Machine apprentice
Satisfied 16 Machine shop
Satisfied 15 Telegraph office
Satisfied 17 Electrician's helper
Satisfied 16 Lineman's helper
Satisfied 16 Lineman's helper
Satisfied 17 Lineman's helper
Satisfied 19 Lineman's helper
Satisfied 16 Office
Satisfied 17 Order picker
Satisfied 16 Engraver
Satisfied 16 Order filler
Satisfied 19 Packer
Dissatisfied 17 Messenger
Dissatisfied 18 Machine shop
Business 16 Messenger
Trade 17 Machine shop
Trade 15 Office
Trade 16 Telephone office
Trade 17 (Machine shop
Trade 16 1 Machine shop
Trade 17 Carrier
Trade 18 Order filler
Trade 17 Order filler
Electrician 16 Office
Electrician 19 Machine shop
Electrician 17 .Order picker
Electrician 19 Machine shop
Lineman 18 Office
Lineman 18 Telephone material clerk
Printer 18 Machine shop
Draughtsman 16 Office
Draughtsman 17 Machine shop
Bookkeeper 16 Office

6th Grade Boys Out of School
Desired employment Age Present employment
Satisfied 16 Office
Satisfied 16 Errands
Satisfied 17 Order filler
Dissatisfied 15 Office boy
Business 17 Packer
Business 16 Errands
Trade 18 Wrapper
Trade 17 Order filler
Office 15 Messenger
Electrician 20 Machine shop
Civil engineer 19 Machine shop
Printer 17 Wrapper
Carpenter Order filler


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5TH GRADE BOYS OUT OF SCHOOL
Desired employment Age Present employment
Undetermined 17 Foundry
Undetermined 18 Carrier
Undetermined 18 Machine shop
Undetermined 16 Machine shop
Undetermined 17 Machine shop
Undetermined 17 Machine shop
Undetermined 18 Machine shop
Undetermined 20 Machine shop
Undetermined 16 Machine shop
Undetermined 20 Machine shop
Trade 17 Machine shop
Trade 17 Machine shop
Trade 16 Machine shop
Machinist 17 Machine shop
Butcher 17 Machine shop
Butcher 18 Machine shop

Table XIV. -- 8th Grade Night School
Present employment Age Present employment Age
Machinist 20 Machine shop 16
Office boy 15 Office clerk 18
Bricklayer's apprentice 19 Errand boy 15
Designer's apprentice Carpenter's apprentice 19
Clerk 19 Carpenter 19
Carpenter 19 Carpenter 18
Usher 19 Errand boy 17
Order clerk 17 Office clerk 16
Teaming 16 Machinist's apprentice 19
Carpenter's apprentice 21 Making telephone condensers 18
Filling telephone boxes 20 Baggage checker 18
Painter and decorator 19 Packer (provisions) 16


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7th Grade Night School
Present employment Age Present employment Age
Office boy 15 Machine shop 18
Painter's helper 15 Machine shop 16
Office boy 15 Elevator operator 23
Piece work 17 Delivery boy 20
Office boy 17 Machinist -
Machinist. 23 Lumber tallier 24
Truck handler 24 Lather 21
Photographer's helper . 15 Office boy 15
Cutter-tailor - Office -
Printer 18 Office boy 16
Office boy 15 Baker 19
Tagging 18 Stock boy 16
Varnisher - Blacksmith's helper 16
Office boy 15 Janitor 17
Mail clerk, assistant 17 Office boy 15
Bill distributor 18 Tailor's apprentice 14
Printer 15 Office boy 15
Bill distributor Wood worker 21
Office boy 16 Helper, awning shop 19
Office boy 16 Order filler 16
Office boy 16 Office boy 15
Packer  16 Errand 16
Office boy  16 Office boy 15
Errand 17

6th Grade Night School
Present Employment Age Present Employment Age
Errand ... Elevator operator 18
Tailor shop 20 Machine oiler 22
Order clerk 18 Tailor 20
Stock boy 20 Butcher -
Bricklayer 15 Electric light trimmer 24
Errands 20 Candymaker 17
Switch tender, railroad . 20 Stairbuilder 23
Carpenter 20 Carpenter 18
Bricklayer's apprentice 17 Errand 18
Jewelry packer 19 Office boy 15
Candymaker 20 Machine shop 19
Machine shop 17 Drug store 18
Shipping clerk - Bricklayer's apprentice 17
Clerk, dry goods 20 Tailor's shop 16
Clerk 17


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Table XV. -- 6th Grade Night School
Present employment Age Future
Failed to reveal 18 Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal 17 Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal 14 Undetermined
Failed to reveal Undetermined
Failed to reveal 18 Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal 14 Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined

7th Grade Night School
Failed to reveal 20 Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
Failed to reveal 18 Undetermined
Failed to reveal - Undetermined
8TH GRADE NIGHT SCHOOL
Failed to reveal - Undetermined


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Table XVI -- Desired Employment
No. No.
Satisfied 117 Electrical engineer 2
Dissatisfied 19 Typewriter repairer 1
Undetermined 26 Bank 2
Trade 35 Insurance 1
Electrician 16 Bookkeeper  4
Plumber 4 Special delivery P. 0 . 1
Office 7 Pharmacist 4
Telegraph operator 3 Railroad office 2
Business 14 Chemist 1
Machinist 10 Automobile machinist  1
Carpenter 3 Government office 1
Printer 4 Railroad mail clerk 1
Draughtsman 6 Grain buyer 1
Letter carrier 4 Chauffeur 1
Civil engineer 2 Butcher 1
Piano tuner 1 Lineman 5
Farmer 3 Mechanical engineer 1
Railroad engineer 2 Lawyer  2
Architect 3 Musician 1
Navy 1 Patternmaker 2
Tinsmith 1 Steamfitter 2
Stenographer 2 Real estate agent 1
Traveling salesman 2 Layerout in wrought shop 1
Clerk  2 Correspondence, M. 0. house. 1
Street-car conductor 1 Lathing contractor 1
Theater decorator 1 Bookbinder 1
Boatbuilder 1 Commercial school 1
Engraver 1 Structural engineer 1

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